Info-Atari16 Digest Tue, 28 Jan 92 Volume 92 : Issue 52 Today's Topics: 128K Mac ROMS for sale! Adding a second Hard Drive with new LUN. Help. Aladin Amiga geeks, read this Amiga SW/HW, Atari ST SW, modems, monitors, SCSI HDs for sale Anti-flamewar proposal. BFJ International Orders ($279 Supra v.32bis) Darn brevity Dead 520 ST Deskjet 500 (2 msgs) pcditto software on a TT? Spectre users unite! UNIXMODE Various ST topics Wanted: Hard disk for use with 1040ST Welcome to the Info-Atari16 Digest. The configuration for the automatic cross-posting to/from Usenet is getting closer, but still getting thrashed out. Please send notifications about broken digests or bogus messages to Info-Atari16-Request@NAUCSE.CSE.NAU.EDU. Please send requests for un/subscription and other administrivia to Info-Atari16-Request, *NOT* Info-Atari16. Requests that go to the list instead of the moderators are likely to be lost or ignored. If you want to unsubscribe, and you're receiving the digest indirectly from someplace (usually a BITNET host) that redistributes it, please contact the redistributor, not us. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 28 Jan 92 22:55:56 GMT From: arizona.edu!cerritos.edu!nic.csu.net!usc!sdd.hp.com!wupost!darwin.sura.net!have n.umd.edu!news.umbc.edu!umbc5.umbc.edu!chuck@arizona.edu (Chuck Rickard; ACS (UGRAD)) Subject: 128K Mac ROMS for sale! To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu I have a few sets of 128K Mac ROMs that I am selling for $175 each set. It's just what you need for your new Spectre GCR! If interested, please contact me at the address below. Thanks! -- Chuck Rickard (chuck@umbc5.umbc.edu) ------------------------------ Date: 28 Jan 92 23:50:02 GMT From: infonode!ingr!b11!jmack@uunet.uu.net (Cery McCormick) Subject: Adding a second Hard Drive with new LUN. Help. To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu I am having trouble adding a second hard drive to my 520ST. I have a Berkely BMS host adapter with an Adaptec 5000 (4 MFM ports) SCSI card. My first drive is logical unit 0 and has always booted/worked fine. I added a second drive as LUN 1; the supra software lets me format and partition it OK but I can't get it to be recognized as having partitions F, G, and H when I boot up. (Icons are there, but the driver doesn't recogize those drives; ie. DRVBITS doesn't have them in it.) My first drive has C, D, and E. Any help on how to get my second SCSI 0, LUN 1, drive to have partitions F, G, and H would be greatly appreciated. | J. Cary McCormick | Intergraph Corporation | | | jmack@gunshop.b11.ingr.com (205) 730-6185 | ------------------------------ Date: 28 Jan 92 22:48:42 GMT From: mcsun!@uunet.uu.net (Stephan Muhs) Subject: Aladin To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In article <92020.132931GUTEST6@cc1.kuleuven.ac.be> GUTEST6@cc1.kuleuven.ac.be (Kris Van Hees) writes: >Hi! > >COuld anyone please tell me what version of Aladin is needed to execute >Mac programs since system folder version 6. We have sent an MS Works >version from a Mac running sys folder 6, and it fails to execute due to >an incorrect system folder version. Any ideas hos to fix this? > As far as I know, you are out of luck. You need the newer 128 kByte MAC boot ROMs to run system 6.0.x. To the best of my knowledge, Aladin never supported the 128 kB ROMs. Thus, Aladin is pretty obsolete nowadays. You should consider to dump the Aladin and get Gadget`s Spectre GCR. Stephan -- stephan muhs colonius@dino.dinoco.de wilhelmstr. 51 ...!{tmpmbx|mcshh|smurf|unido}!easix!channelz!dino!colonius 5000 koeln 60 Genie: s.muhs germany voice: +49 221 7393484 ------------------------------ Date: 29 Jan 92 03:43:48 GMT From: bonnie.concordia.ca!IRO.UMontreal.CA!JSP.UMontreal.CA!u1398@uunet.uu.net (Kosmatos Odisseas) Subject: Amiga geeks, read this To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In article <1992Jan28.143618.14501@doug.cae.wisc.edu> carter@cae.wisc.edu (Carter Gregory) writes: [irrelevant stuff deleted][sp] >I think ATARI people just can't stand to hear there are many computers ~~~ >out there, far more capable, far less expensive, than the ones with the ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >ATARI label on thier desks...or floor. Okay, enlighten us, which computers are out there that are less expensive than Atari computers, and are far more capable. Start off with the $349 Atari STE 512K. (Current price, Toad computers) I find this fair, as most people have 8MHZ machines. An STE with blitter chip, stereo 50Khz sound, Midi ports, SIMM, Instant boot, 640x400 mono. Next, step up to Mega STE1 for $999. 16Mhz with cache, 68881 socket, VME card slot, Built in HD ready, and all the previous model's features. L'ets stop here temporarily. (Please, no remarks in the "AH! you know the TT doesnt have a chance in such a discussion" sense.) We can discuss the TT line after, thats all. Or is the TT the only thing you can pick on? >--Greg -- Das machine is nicht fur gefingerpoken und mittengrabben. Ist easy schnappen der springenwerk, blowenfusen und corkenpoppen mit spitzensparken. Ist nicht fur gewerken by das dummkopfen. Das rubbernecken sightseeren keepen hands in das pockets, relaxen und vatch das blinkenlights!!! ------------- :-) ------ ------------------------------ Date: 29 Jan 92 00:51:34 GMT From: psinntp!ultb!ultb!clf3678@uunet.uu.net (C.L. Freemesser) Subject: Amiga SW/HW, Atari ST SW, modems, monitors, SCSI HDs for sale To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu This is a repost of an earlier post. More stuff added, some prices lowered! ----------- The various items listed here are for sale. If you are interested in anything here, please contact me via: GEnie: C.FREEMESSER Internet: clf3678@rit.ultb.edu clf3678@ritvax Phone: (716)328-5505 after 6pm EST Prices do not include shipping. Will make a deal on multiple purchase of items, but prices are pretty low. Everything listed here is in PERFECT working condition! I'll find out the EXACT UPS shipping charges for anything you want to order. I've got more stuff than I need, and a big tuition bill coming, so I need to sell this stuff soon! ------------ Amiga 500 computer system. About 4 months old. Includes the computer with a 1MB Supra memory expansion (total memory 1MB). This was one of those starter kits that came with the Amiga 520 RF/color composite adapter, TextCraft Plus, Tetris, and Where In the World is Carmen Sandiego. Complete with all manuals, disks, original packaging, cables, etc. I will throw in a copy of "Amiga for Beginners" by Abacus Books, a few European mags, and Gauntlet II. I'll also include the original reciept for everything so you can take advantage of the remaining warranty period. Very little use. $325 ------------ Golden Image 880k Amiga external drive. Very little use on my part. Purchased used, but is in EXCELLENT condition. Also complete with manuals and original packaging. Warranty card was never sent in, so you can probably get FULL warranty on it. $60 ------------ DataFlyer Plus hard drive interface for Amiga 500. 1 1/2 months old (at most). Sidecars onto the Amiga 500. Not just the board, but the complete steel case as well. With original packaging, disk, and manual. The manual, however, is missing 4 pages (fault of factory, not me). I'll include the original receipt for it so you can take advantage of the remaining warranty period. $120 ------------ Maxtor 7120SR hard drive. 125MB, 3.5 inch SCSI embedded drive. Data transfer rate of 960K/s @ 21ms. Manufacture date of 9/28/91. This drive has seen little use! I bought it in November to replace an ailing drive on my BBS. Now that I've taken down my BBS, I'd like to sell the drive. It's a low-profile (1 inch high) drive. Nice and quiet, and FAST! Paid $380 for it. Note that you have about 9 months left on the warranty! I will include a copy of the original sales slip so you can take advantage of said warranty (if you need to). $330 ------------ Magnavox RGB Monitor 80. This monitor accepts both digital RGB and color composite signals, and has a front switch so you can go between them on the fly. Looks to be about a 13 inch screen. Has sound capability (RCA jack input). In very good condition. I used this monitor in composite mode on my Amiga until I got an analog RGB monitor for it. You can hook up such things as an IBM computer (with CGA card), VCR, Nintendo, Atari XL/XE and Commodore 64/128. Owner's manual is included so you can make specialty cables for the RGB port. $90 ------------ BMI monochrome monitor. A little old, but works just fine. Green phosphor display, no sound. Ideal for use on older computers like the Apple II series (which did not require sound). RCA jack for video input. $25 ------------ Zenith Data Systems 2400 baud modem. Only used a few hours. This is a "standard" modem, with Hayes compatibility and a size that fits easily under a telephone. Has the standard 8 LEDs on the front, with power switch on back. Includes manual. $65 ------------ Microcom AX/2400C modem. This is a 2400 baud modem featuring MNP levels 1-5. Microcom invented MNP, and now you can have a real Microcom modem! It's been on my BBS for about 3 months, but since I don't run a BBS anymore, I'd like to sell this modem. It's got lots of dip switches to set just about everything. Both asynchronous and syncronous operation with a front switch. There is also a "talk/data" button on the front, along with 7 LEDs. Owner's manual and original packaging included. This modem features both full Hayes compatibility and Microcom's own protocol. $90 ------------ Amiga Software (all include boxes and manuals): Alternate Reality: The City......$10 Major Motion.....................$10 TransWrite (latest version)......$40 Wings............................$30 Battle of Britain (LucasFilm)....$15 FirePower........................$10 ------------ Atari ST Software (all include boxes and manuals): Joust....................................$5 Great Battles (Napoleonic/Civil War).....$10 King of Chicago (Cinemaware).............$10 BattleHawks: 1942........................$15 Sub Battle Simulator.....................$10 Hole-In-One Mini Golf (2nd disk bad).....$2 _______________________________________________________________________ || Chris Freemesser, RIT Comp.Eng.Tech. I'd rather have a bottle || || BITNET: clf3678@ritvax in front of me..... || || Usenet: clf3678@rit.ultb.edu .....than have a frontal || || GEnie: C.FREEMESSER L O B O T O M Y ! ! ! || ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: 28 Jan 92 18:10:57 GMT From: cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu!crabapple.srv.cs.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu!mc4c+@cs.roch ester.edu (Mark Choi) Subject: Anti-flamewar proposal. To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu I have to agree with all the ST gripes so far. Here are a few suggestions. 1) Atari has to out the idea that buss architectures make a computer more expensive where it belongs, in the garbage. The added expense to hack something to expand a non-expandable" machine is at least triple. Look at the difference between internal and externa PC harware, for instance. 2) I do not mind TOS in ROM (Well, I guess I mind TOS no matter where it is!) But it is a bit intimidating to upgrade to those out there who are techno phobes, or expensive tohave a dealer do. So here are two suggestions. a) put the TOS chips under a removable cover on a removale card. Then upgrading is just a matter of slipping in a card. A piece of circuitboar of this lack of complexity would only add at most a few buck to the cost, and make the whole project more pallatable for many. Also, it would alow a user to ugrade TOS without voiding their warranty (Is Atari the only company left with a lame ass "The users are too stupid to be allowed to open their computer" policy?). b) make TOS modular, So that to upgrade only bits and pieces, a disk with patches could be used as a boot disk as well as the ROM, and then the OS could be ugraded on disk until the user buys the ROMS, sorta the way the macOS is (sorta). Imagine how much easier somethig like neodesk would be to program. Or replacement VDI driver, QuickST, etc.. 3) Kill the Tramiels (sorry, I couldn't resist :) ) 4) Make the cartidge port read/write, with a much bigger data bus. Have a software switch for compatibility. 5) Just use a better Power Supply. This is just plain bad engineering, especially when there is no bus, causing expansion hacks to have to draw inordinate amounts of power, or have ungainly external supplies. 6) Get the damn 24-bit VDI ot the damn door. What time is it? 1992? 7) include the new PDS in the notebook on all ST/TTs All this should have been done ages ago, so I doubt it will be done now, but it is nice to dream mark ------------------------------ Date: 28 Jan 92 16:58:57 GMT From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!network.ucsd.edu!sdcc12!sdcc13!atilghma@ar izona.edu (Adam Tilghman) Subject: BFJ International Orders ($279 Supra v.32bis) To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu (I'm posting this because I've received >>10 requests for such info :) In E-mail you write: > In your article you mentioned a company that sels > Supra modems at a good price. Could you email me their > phone(or better still thei fax) number without that 800- > prefix. Is that a reliable company? BFJ, who are selling the v.32bis SupraFaxModem for US$279, are located near Atlanta, but besides that I don't know about their track record. From talking with their sales rep., they seem like a reputable company. You can reach them at 1-800-932-4712 (US/Canada), (404)998-8251 (voice), or (404)992-0448 (Fax). -- adam > Kimmo Lahtinen E-Mail : lahtinen@gideon.fmi.fi > Finnish Meteorological Institute Phone : +358 0 758 1322 > Possessed by a Spirit G3 Fax : +358 0 758 1396 -- ==== Adam G. Tilghman - atilghma@sdcc13.ucsd.edu - (619)558-2141 ==== == "Martha, fetch my rifle - thar's another UCSD ECE undergrad!" == ------------------------------ Date: 28 Jan 92 21:09:46 GMT From: arizona.edu!cerritos.edu!nic.csu.net!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!zaphod.mps. ohio-state.edu!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!doug.cae.wisc.edu!carter@arizona.edu (Carter Gregory) Subject: Darn brevity To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In article <1992Jan28.004245.12805@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu> rjc@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Ray) writes: >In article <1992Jan27.114847.15361@doug.cae.wisc.edu> carter@cae.wisc.edu (Carter Gregory) writes: >>You have to be joking guy, don't even try to compare AMIGA DOS with ANY >>version of UNIX, especially the Mach version on the NeXT. >> > Dream on, you don't know what you're talking about. If AmigaDOS ( >actually exec.library) had memory protection and virtual memory, it >would virtually be unix. Exec, like Mach, is not Unix, they are merely Yes AMIGA DOS would virtually be UNIX, but it DOESN'T have these options, and they aren't available period unless you buy a UNIX BOX or Package from CBM. Which was my original point. .. >If they are not in the same league, how come I can compile most >Unix source's without changing anything? How a number of Exec and Depends WHAT KIND of UNIX applications your talking about. I have UNIX libraries too on my ST, with LOWLY TOS. But I can't compile rn and have it run under TOS. The fact is, you can't make claims about AMIGA DOS when it comes to running UNIX applications of some weight like X-Windows under AMIGA DOS. You can't. You need a fundamentally different software architecture to take advantage of UNIX. Thats why people buy UNIX to run UNIX applications. This is the point I was making. >Dos functions have the same name as Unix counter parts? >Exec is even object oriented! > > > Well it lacks memory protection and virtual memory, but besides that, >Mach doesn't have that much on it. Exec has the fastest context switch time >of any multitasking OS, and its the reason why we don't have virtual ANY Multitasking OS? Oh really now. Thats just a bit presumptuous... and besides that you left out a critical point...depending on what CPU you run a particular core program on, it could be slower or faster. There is NOW WAY you can support that claim given the incredibly huge variety of computers and software combinations out there. >... > Get a clue. The 3000 has a very fast memory and bus design. The Zorro III >bus can reach speeds of over 40mb/s at 25mhz, and the 3000 uses >burst/nibble SCRAM ZIPs, 32bit access to memory, and a custom chip, RAMsey, >to manage RAM access so it knows when to use the SCRAM features. >The NeXT is slow because Display Postscript is slow. I should know because I don't doubt the AMIGA has an efficient bus design, its come a long way since the A2000 days. But here your comparing hardware to software, your bus to Postscript. The NuBUS backplane on the next is quite fast, very fast. And not only that, it doesn't have the double memory architecture the ZORRO III bus has to negotiate between slow and fast RAM. The NeXT simply blows information were it wills accross the bus. I know the handshaking for cards and protocol is much simpler on the NeXT machine. I don't know the exact specs for the NeXT backplane, but I bet they are truly awesome indeed. >I have an AMI 486/33, Tseng ET4000, running ESIX SVr4 with >Motif, OpenLook, OpenWindows, and NeWS (Display Postscript). When I run >NeWS it takes about 5 seconds to move a window, about 8 to resize it, >and the whole time the mouse pointer jumps around the screen because >the server is running in 100% interpreted postscript. If it's slow on >a 486/33 w/16mb memory, 256k cache, imagine how slow it is on a 256 byte >cache, 68030/25 with 8mb of memory. > > What this has to do with the pathetic ST I don't know. I didn't post it as a ST rebuke, you simply made points that I feel were very misleading about AMIGA DOS and the NeXT system capabilities. -Greg ------------------------------ Date: 29 Jan 92 00:52:47 GMT From: arizona.edu!cerritos.edu!nic.csu.net!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps. ohio-state.edu!linac!att!cbfsb!cbnewsg.cb.att.com!ncherry@arizona.edu (neil j.cherry) Subject: Dead 520 ST To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu I killed my ST! ;-{ But I may be able to revive it if I can find a place that sell replacement chips. It died when I upgraded from 2.5 meg to 4.0 Meg. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Or if someone has a 520 motherboard for sale cheap ..... NJC ------------------------------ Date: 28 Jan 92 14:38:19 GMT From: sun-barr!cronkite.Central.Sun.COM!texsun!digi!rgoseweh@ames.arpa (Roy Gosewehr) Subject: Deskjet 500 To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu I have an HP DeskJet 500 (upgraded from the original DeskJet) and I love it! It is quiet, reasonably fast, and has beautiful output. The output compares favorably to my HP LaserJet III at work. (You have to look real, real close to see the difference.) I don't use Tex or Ghostscript but do use GDOS (actually G+PLUS), primarily with Easy-Draw (GEM Metafiles) and Word-Up. Be aware of a couple of things: 1) The printout *is sensitive* to the paper stock that you use. Some paper will give really crummy printouts and on others you could swear you had a laser printer. 2) With GDOS fonts, the driver is very important. For most of my GDOS programs I use the Migraph driver with excellent results. However, the Word-Up fonts print better with the original Neocept TurboJet driver. I have never regretted buying this (or the original) printer. I have recommended it to many friends and not one has been unhappy with it. Go for it! Roy C. Gosewehr ------------------------------ Date: 28 Jan 92 22:28:25 GMT From: arizona.edu!cerritos.edu!nic.csu.net!usc!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!samsung! munnari.oz.au!bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au!uqcspe!cs.uq.oz.au!warwick@arizona.edu (Warwick Allison) Subject: Deskjet 500 To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu marc@hemlock.cray.com (Marc Bouron) writes: >Well, here we are only a day later, and I've received zillions, well, several >replies already to my query about buying a DJ500. I'll summarise below: > B U Y I T ! ! ! I don't know much about the DJ500, but the Canon Bubble Jets are also NLQ (Near LASER Quality) 360dpi and all that, totally silent, and the ink is DRY as soon as the paper comes out of the printer. But the BJ10ex does take 10 minutes to print a page of graphics (until I get my hands on a faster driver). Warwick -- _-_|\ warwick@cs.uq.oz.au | / * <-- Computer Science Department, | HELLO, I'm a signature virus! \_.-._/ University of Queensland, | Join in the fun v Brisbane, AUSTRALIA. | and copy me into yours! ------------------------------ Date: 28 Jan 92 09:43:48 GMT From: mcsun!uknet!bcc.ac.uk!ucacmsu@uunet.uu.net (Mr Stephen R Usher) Subject: pcditto software on a TT? To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In article <1992Jan27.043129.2193@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> wmagro@roma.physics.uiuc.edu (William Magro) writes: >Has anyone tried the PCDitto software emulator on a TT? If so, does >it work or no? If it does work, I wonder if the speed would be good >enough to make it actually useful, unlike its speed on a regular ST. > >Let me know if you know.... > >Thanks, > >--Bill I tried it and it failed :-) Then again I didn't expect it to work, the TT is such a different beast to the ST. Steve -- Addresses:- JANET:- ucacmsu@uk.ac.ucl or susher@uk.ac.csm Internet:- ucacmsu@ucl.ac.uk or susher@csm.ac.uk ------------------------------ Date: 28 Jan 92 20:25:55 GMT From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!doug.cae.wisc.e du!carter@arizona.edu (Carter Gregory) Subject: Spectre users unite! To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In article <1992Jan24.165315.5787@unx.sas.com> snoret@egon.unx.sas.com (Rick Tatem) writes: >Yes! I think there is. And if you include people like me (who don't yet >own a spectre but who are diligently scraping together every loose nickel >and dime they have to get one) you would find quite a bit of interest. > >And with a newsgroup for spectre users, it would just help increase it's >own size by giving those folks who (somewhat like me) have been living >under a rock ( or just nowhere near an Atari dealer ... oops, I guess >that's just about everybody :) the chance to learn more about the >product and its capabilities, making it more likely that they'll get >one. > >Just MH2CW, > >Rick >---- >Rick Tatem __-__ _ >snoret@unx.sas.com =========@ ============ *#__===___ >UNIX Support ___\\____ / /_ `'%%%%%%%%*#*--(0)---\ >SAS Institute, Inc. \______________{ @* @ I don't think the Spectre GCR warrants a complete seperate group...yet. Right now, if your at all serious about the Spectre GCR your on the MAC group in rn, not in comp.sys.atari.st. However, if Mr. Small delivers on his promise of a well designed hardware accelerator board for current ST owners, the capabilities of such a board might warrant a comp.sys.atari.sst group. I hope Mr. Small gets the MEGA STE version out quickly, I have my check waiting... --Greg ------------------------------ Date: 28 Jan 92 18:01:36 GMT From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!caen!heifetz!math.fu-berlin.de!pbinfo!f eanor!thomas@arizona.edu (Thomas Franken) Subject: UNIXMODE To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu First of all thank you for the quick respond to my request on my problems concerning UNIXMODE and MiNT. Secondly I have some questions on the Minix file-system: - Is it true that the filename-length is restricted to 14 chars? - Is the contens of mfs0541.zoo from aa suitable to the effort of creating a Minix-like file-system and - if it is suitable, do I need any additional sources for this purpose? The most interesting thing for me to hear certainly was the information that someone is working on an AUTO folder program as a realization of the UNIXMODE. I'd like to know more about that... Finally, if I try to write an appropriate file-system on my own, would it be sensible to use the file `tosfs.c' from the MINIX sources as an idea and basement to extract and modify in order to supply an alternative, UNIXMODE-able file system? Thomas Franken thomas@cadlab.uni-paderborn.de ------------------------------ Date: 28 Jan 92 17:00:20 GMT From: duke!news.duke.edu!acpub.duke.edu!bigham@mcnc.org (Scott Bigham) Subject: Various ST topics To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu From the Holy Book of <1992Jan28.142853.25040@actrix.gen.nz> as spake by Roger.Sheppard@actrix.gen.nz (Roger Sheppard) : >In article <999@news.duke.edu> bigham@acpub.duke.edu (Scott Bigham) writes: >> [TeX] 3.1 is usable, just. I had room for FATSPEED and FOLDR080, and that was >> pushing it. [...] >Why not get TOS 1.4 [...] I did, hence the "had." I have a bit more room now. :) -sbigham -- Scott Bigham | The opinions expressed above are bigham@hercules.acpub.duke.edu | (c) 1991 Hacker Ltd. and cannot be | copied or distributed without a | Darn Good Reason(tm). ------------------------------ Date: 28 Jan 92 20:02:31 GMT From: mcrware!davek@uunet.uu.net (Dave Kimble) Subject: Wanted: Hard disk for use with 1040ST To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu I would like to finish a project that I started on the Atari 1040ST. I have a friend here at work that has an STe that I can use but he doesn't have a spare hard disk. I would love to go back to work on the project, but I can't afford the $450 that retailers have been happy to charge me. If you have an Atari drive that you've had sitting under-utilized and you would like to turn into cash (or a good quality check), please repond via E-mail. Thanks a megabyte. Dave Kimble Internet: davek@MICROWARE.COM UUCP: uunet!mcrware!davek ------------------------------ End of Info-Atari16 Digest ******************************